Hey @martinfeld Your Lounge Rumination about gendered food and drink was very interesting. Back around 1980 in smalltown Aotearoa New Zealand friends and I went to the ‘fancy' restaurant. There were 2 menus: one had prices (for the men); the other didn’t (for the women). ‼️
Miraz Jordan @Burk I was the local feminist at that time. We sat down, menus were handed out then a hush came down as my friends realised and waited for my reaction… I wasn't very familiar with restaurants at that age, but had also never heard of such a ridiculous thing.
Miraz Jordan @lmika Well, it was a small town and also about 1980. Forty years ago things were very different. I've just done a prolonged search and can't find dates when it changed but when I was a kid women couldn't get bank loans or mortgages without a male guarantor. It's easy to forget that in my lifetime (I'm 65) things have changed enormously for women. I created a huge fuss in that small town by insisting on being called ‘Ms’ rather than Mrs or Miss. It took them years to get over it.
Leon Mika Yeah, that’s very true. It’s easy to get caught seeing events like this through the lens of the present.
Miraz Jordan @lmika Oh, even then I thought it was scandalous! 😀 But I was a feminist 20-something year old in a backward small town in the rurals which were also behind the times.
Paul Atlan i remember a few times when my (well to do) girlfriend invited me to dinner at fancy restaurants in Lyon or Paris and we had to swap menus in front of a horrified waiter ...
Martin Feld This is absolutely outrageous! Thanks again for listening and for sharing this. I had never heard of such a thing...
Miraz Jordan @martinfeld 😀 And you don't even know about how I was the first out gay person in that small town…
Martin Feld I can only imagine how difficult that must have been… it's great that you were a pioneer/role model for others though.