At first I thought this hour long chat wasn't for me, but it turned out to be really interesting — A Short History of Saving The World | The Long History of AI: From Descartes to Astro Boy & ChatGPT:

In every age, humans have questioned what separates us from animals, machines, and each other. In this episode, Angus Hervey and Ada Palmer explore our changing ideas of consciousness and intelligence. From Descartes and religion to Astro Boy and the futures we once imagined, this conversation connects our history of consciousness with today's AI debate.